Posts by Open mind

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the other side of my story and why im going back

by deservingone26 in

jw
friends

there are two parts to this topic you can read one or the other or both if you want, i just figured i post this for differents ones who might being going thru what i am going thru i tried to write this as quick as possible so everything i am posting here is not to offend anyone i know everyone has the own opinions on different things so you can disagree or agree, but this is where i stand.

sorry for any spelling errors or grammar issues up front.

my story .

Open mind

If you're looking for folks who will be supportive of you going back to the Kingdom Hall, this probably isn't the best place to do it.

If being with JW family is what you think it takes to keep you off drugs, well, that's a tough one. I just hope you don't ever need a life-saving blood transfusion if you go back. (Yes, life-saving blood transfusions do exist.)

It's your life and you have to decide how best to live it. (Of course the JWs won't tell you it's YOUR life. But it is.)

I sincerely wish you the best life possible.

om

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Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

by Alfred in

jw
friends

(a little background info before i ask my question...).

my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

Open mind

OUTLAW, good point on the unwritten vs. written rules of WTBTS.

The Kingdom Ministry quote allows a WT apologist to show how reasonable and contemporary JWs are with society in general.

I think many JWs find themselves in lower income brackets largely due to their WT-induced lack of education/careers. There is also a sense of "Why should I help rearrange deck chairs on the Titantic?" (i.e. This system's going down, so my resources are best used in Kingdom Service.)

In general I have observed JWs whose income level is anywhere from affluent to middle class (yes, they exist) leaving good tips. And before I get jumped on, I'm stating up front this is a GENERAL observation. Plenty of exceptions out there, I know.

om

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Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

by Alfred in

jw
friends

(a little background info before i ask my question...).

my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

Open mind

*** km 4/07 p. 5 Follow the Christ by Manifesting Dignity ***
Restaurants: In many places, it is customary to leave a 15 to 20 percent tip, depending on the service.

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Have you ever had a prayer answered?

by nicolaou in

prayer topics seem to be the bandwagon of the moment so i'm jumping on!

seriously, has anyone here asked for something specific in prayer and actually gotten what they asked for?

what convinces you that you wouldn't have got it in any case?

Open mind

One of my biggest worries as a 12,13,14 year old was that Armageddon would come before I was able to drive an automobile. How could a God of Love allow my older siblings to drive and not me?

As a 40-something year old, over a million-mile driver, I can honestly say that my prayer was answered.

Go ahead Nic.

Prove me wrong.

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Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

by Alfred in

jw
friends

(a little background info before i ask my question...).

my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

Open mind

Most JWs were actually born in Australia and then transplanted throughout the globe to do Jehovah's work of not tipping the "worldly" food service worker.

Aussies, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard that tipping in restaurants is generally not part of the culture there. The rest of the "worldwide brotherhood" has no excuse.

Thanks for sharing this experience Alfred.

om

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It's my Birthday!

by Found Sheep in

the 3rd one i'm celebrating!

i'm 36 and doing well!

party party.

Open mind

I sure hope no one gets beheaded because of this.

om

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Leaving your religion. Great interview with a former fundamentalist Christian.

by whereami in

while watching this series on leaving your religion i couldn't help but see the similarities with my own experience.. it's a bit long (13 parts), but well worth it.

i hope you all enjoy.

believers and non-believers alike.. .

Open mind

Thanks whereami.

Marking for a later time with more more bandwidth.

om

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How to think straight. Useful resource IMO.

by Open mind in

the watchtower, on rare occasions, pays lip service to the importance of good critical thinking skills.

most born-in jws probably think they have decent "perceptive powers", i know i did.

i got good grades in school.

Open mind

Sweet B.C., I remember the first time I saw "Demon Haunted World..." on a library shelf. I thought some of Sagan's COSMOS work was really interesting, (except for all that Satanic Evolution stuff) but as a true-believing JW, when I saw "Demon" in the title I immediately looked away.

How dumb was that?

Fast forward a few more years and "Demon Haunted World" was one of the first books to crack through my JW-trained thinking processes.

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How to think straight. Useful resource IMO.

by Open mind in

the watchtower, on rare occasions, pays lip service to the importance of good critical thinking skills.

most born-in jws probably think they have decent "perceptive powers", i know i did.

i got good grades in school.

Open mind

The Watchtower, on rare occasions, pays lip service to the importance of good critical thinking skills. Most born-in JWs probably think they have decent "perceptive powers", I know I did. I got good grades in school. I could beat my fellow students, siblings or parents now and then in arguments.

Then I found this place and other web-based forums.

DOH!!!

What an undereducated, over-confident, ignoramus I had become after decades of the "Best Education on Earth" (tm).

Anyway, I stumbled upon this Critical Thinking web page hosted by San Jose State University the other day and found it to be a helpful primer in argumentation and logical fallacies. The logical fallacy section reads like a walk through the cubicles of the WT Writing Department.

http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/itl/graphics/main.html

Let me know what you think!

om

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Pray for our Brothers in Japan

by doubtful in

this is my first post.

the first portion is my story, and toward the end, you will find the section pertinent to the title of this thread.

(starting with the portion in bold print).

Open mind

http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity#p/c/D835E284A3AC7AA6/3/UaZDcS-rMf4

God's answering machine can get pretty backed up sometimes.

om